Christian couples using the F-word in bed? Hot topic! Marriage bed ';undefiled';,?

I've read in the bible and many recent blogs and posts that the marriage bed is ';undefiled'; and many married Christians use it as an excuse to use phrases like ';i want u to f*** me'; to their spouse. Now, I'm not being judgmental(maybe a little), but words like ';f***'; are from the WORLD and not christian-marriage origin. In order for Christians to know that the word f*** can be used in a sexual context means that they somehow went to the ';wordly sex'; for consultation. I mean, terms like that were not taken from christian-based principles and then incorporated into the sex industries (porn, etc)-it was vise versa... to me... these Christians consulted what they call the ';horrible sex industry'; to ';spice up their marriage';. They say it's not cursing because of the context in which is it used. Give me a break. Having sex with your spouse is supposed to honor and glorify god, if God was in the room would you still say that? I'm not saying that communicating w/ your spouse in the bedroom is ungodly, I'm talking about calling your wife/husband a dirty little ';whore/slut/*****'; and using words such as ';f***';. How does one take something from the world and use it to benefit themselves (or maybe it isn't wrong)





Does anyone have a logical explanation for this reasoning? Can someone give me some direction.....? If I am wrong, please let me know I am trying to understand.Christian couples using the F-word in bed? Hot topic! Marriage bed ';undefiled';,?
In short, you're probably wrong about this.





You should watch the sketch by the famous comic George Carlin...(died earlier this year) anyway, it;s called ';The Seven words you can't say on TV';


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFmRypAYz鈥?/a>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFmRypAYz鈥?/a>





What exactly is ';cursing';? Is it using words to deliberately offend people or be deliberately obtuse? Well, I don't need to use ';curse words'; to do that, fortunately. (It helps though.)





They're just words. Kids use them and understand what they mean form an early age, even if their parents tell them it's ';bad';....that just makes it more fun and exciting.





You know, I was always told as a kid, to look up to guys like fireman, soldiers, policemen, sailors, construction workers and the type. And look how they all talk. (These people have obviously been morally corrupted, and their sex lives been permanently damaged by using ';ungodly'; ';impure'; language...)





If people stopped making such a big deal about it. chances are, other people would stop using ';fu(k'; in every third or fourth word,. They'd also probably think of something else more offensive, and maybe more intelligent to use.





I don't think I'll ever understand the idea that there are a handful of words that are absolutely evil harmful and that context doesn't matter. I bet I could think of a context in which the word ';consultation'; was extremely offensive and perverted. Don't make me give you an example.





Once you start making words taboo, then people just start using other euphemisms when they want to talk about sex and anatomy, which in some contexts may be even more ';graphic.'; Then you have to taboo euphemisms, which gets really messy....





But what you're talking about here is discerning intent. First off, If two people are doing something they like for whatever reason, and it doesn't effect you or harm you or anyone else, and they don't talk to you about it........then how exactly is it your business? It isn't.......If you feel like it's OK to pretend to disrespect your spouse and pretend to verbally abuse them......well I don't have to agree with that, but that's really up to you, isn't it.





Second, what exactly is ';worldly sex';? I didn't know there was another kind.....SO, one kind of sex is dirty and disgusting and messy and harmful and degenerate, while another kind is wholesome and uplifting and godly and ';spiritual';? Even though, when you get down to it they both basically involve the same thing? So where's the difference? Who are you to say what people should and shouldn't enjoy? So you're saying, as long as you're thinking about god while you're doing it, it's OK?





If you can come up with a good answer to these question, then by all means....





My opinion on this is, I don't have a problem doing things that conform to your beliefs, if they don't interfere with other people's lives.





Don't come up with some naive sophomoric rationalization to attempt to project your needs and beliefs onto other people's behavior. Then you're just wasting you brains and your time.Christian couples using the F-word in bed? Hot topic! Marriage bed ';undefiled';,?
You do not have to concern yourself what others say in their bedroom and why they do it, In your bedroom you do and say what you want, Dont even ';go there'; and worry about what others do in their bedroom or where ever they ';go forth and multiply'; while permission was granted to do so THe verbal ettiquette was not expounded upon.
I hate those words. Anytime my husband tries to use that one word to describe a future intimate moment, I say, ';No, I don't do that with anyone.'; I doubt that you are wrong.





Everyone likes different things, but I would never ask my husband to call me those names. Even if he were to make a joke about me being those things, I would feel insulted and hurt.
Jesus, you christians are funny. You make all these rules up, and then struggle to mix, match, and combine answers and solutions in order to please ';god';. Etymology has a very lengthy history as a science. **** is just a word that a majority of people believe is ';bad';. It wasn't even a word 1000 years ago, let alone when Jesus was on Earth!! All these rules, all created in human minds! It is just funny.
how do know that........don't tell me that you have some super hearing ability......those claims are unfounded so cut BS
Even me and my wife never use those words yep we say lets make love sounds more romantic then vulgour
I see exactly where you're coming from. The marriage bed being undefiled means that the marriage bed is pure, it doesn't mean that married couples should take ';dirty'; words from the world and thinking that it can somehow be cleansed it within our bedrooms. It means the bed is pure for sex, and should be kept pure as unto God. Sex isn't bad, it's great within marriage... Sex itself is not of the world, it was created by God. Sex is even in the bible (read songs of solomon) Songs of Solomon uses romantic language when describing sex, and I doubt it can be translated into ';dirty whore and slut'; in today's terms. I would want to be loved and respected in my bedroom, not degraded into a porn--but hey that's just me! In a general sense (not necessarily related to this topic) many Christians contradict themselves in the name of God. Obviously, people choose what to do within their bedrooms and only God can judge. Really loved this question. Great question!
Well, F*ck isn't a curse word in the biblical sense. Cursing, Biblically, is blaspheming and taking the lord's name in vain. Also, technically, since God is omniscient, they are saying it while he is in the room. The language isn't polite, but there isn't anything in the Bible about using impolite words where they won't offend. Though you could argue that taking from worldly examples of sexuality means that you have sought it out, and that is unchristian, I think its a weak argument. We learn in elementary school what F*ck means through exposure to older kids, and since God gave us a natural adventurous sexuality, exploring it with your spouse isn't going against his will? Bringing taboo language into the bedroom adds a sense of risque, which is arousing for most people. If spicing your marital relationship in this way keeps you from coveting other sexual relationships then what is the harm? I also understand that you feel its non-christian to take anything from pornography or worldly sexuality, but the bible doesn't make those specifics. From what I recall the only nakedness you are supposed to be ashamed of seeing is that of your family (at least according to Gen, Lev, and Num). As long as you can manage not to covet the people in pornography, and then I don't think its really against the bible. If it isn't against the bible, how can it be unchristian?
Devout Christians know it's wrong. That's why they do it, no doubt. It's an adrenaline rush to do naughty things in the bedroom, and using naughty language is a way to do that without doing something more serious in the eyes of God like, say, sodomy.





It's definitely wrong to cuss in bed. And that's exactly why intimate couples, even Christian ones, will do it until the end of time. If it wasn't naughty or forbidden, what would be the point?